BeerTutor.com - Beer education, culture, and fun BeerTutor.com
          Beer Database | Beer Styles Guide | Glossary | Articles | Videos | City Guides | Tools | Forums
         Homebrewing | Beer Trivia Quizzes | Fun Stuff | Food & Drink Recipes | Links | Books | Beer Gear
  Beer Forums
FAQRules/FAQ SearchSearch Member ListMember List  RegisterRegister  ProfileProfile Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages Log inLog in


Baltic IPA?

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Beer Forums Forum Index -> The Beers
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
beerlover420
Permadrunk
Permadrunk


Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 845
Beer Reviews: 1401
Location: Central Maine, USA.
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt.12, Goose Island Bourbon County Stout

PostPosted: Wed - Feb, 15 2012 - 3:15 pm    Post subject: Baltic IPA? Reply with quote

Is this yet another name for a black IPA? How many freakin' names do we need for this new style?
Confused
_________________
Beer Is Bread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ricka182
Betty Ford Patient
Betty Ford Patient


Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 2702
Beer Reviews: 60
Location: Boston
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt 12

PostPosted: Wed - Feb, 15 2012 - 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marketing. People and "craft brewers" just make shit up nowadays. If it's different, other people will want to try it, just to try something "different". Not all black beers are the same though. Good example would be SA Black Lager, a notably dark, malty, heavy brew. On the flipside, Guiness Black Lager, much lighter in mouthfeel than expected, well defined flavors and aromas, but still black in color.

And to add to the confusion, Sam Adams is adding to their limited release of the small batch series, which I have yet to find anywhere. They will be soon releasing a new Lager, called Deep Depths Black IPA. Yes, they are calling it a black IPA, but also calling it a lager. I read that on two other sites, maybe it was copy/paste, but if it's true... = WTF Mr. Koch?!
_________________
.
*
If a llama crosses the River Thames, can a monkey in Madagascar traverse the Indian ocean on the back of a whale, while tapdancing to a seagull playing the accordian?
*
.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
beerlover420
Permadrunk
Permadrunk


Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 845
Beer Reviews: 1401
Location: Central Maine, USA.
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt.12, Goose Island Bourbon County Stout

PostPosted: Thu - Feb, 16 2012 - 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried that new one by SA, Dark Depths, which is why I started this post. It is more hoppy than any other black IPA and is close to a Baltic porter, so it does make sense to call it a Baltic black IPA, I suppose. I just wonder at what point does a style difference call for the naming of a new style? Stouts already have 4 or more different categories. How about smoked beers? You could have a different category depending on what the base choice of beer is; stout, doppelbock, brown ale, etc.
Drink Beer Bottle
_________________
Beer Is Bread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ricka182
Betty Ford Patient
Betty Ford Patient


Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 2702
Beer Reviews: 60
Location: Boston
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt 12

PostPosted: Thu - Feb, 16 2012 - 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could call a smoked beer, a Rauchbier, which is it's proper name.

Or you could do like me, and call them just F'ing nasty...
_________________
.
*
If a llama crosses the River Thames, can a monkey in Madagascar traverse the Indian ocean on the back of a whale, while tapdancing to a seagull playing the accordian?
*
.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sloshed
Chief Enabler
Chief Enabler


Joined: 30 Mar 2005
Posts: 2673
Beer Reviews: 2616
Location: Portland, OR
Favorite Beer: Achel Extra, Bell's Expedition Stout, Westvleteren 12

PostPosted: Thu - Feb, 16 2012 - 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But not all smoked beers are Rauchbiers.. There are smoked porters, stouts, etc.. Either way, I don't like them either.
_________________
I drink to forget my blackouts.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ricka182
Betty Ford Patient
Betty Ford Patient


Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 2702
Beer Reviews: 60
Location: Boston
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt 12

PostPosted: Fri - Feb, 17 2012 - 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imposters. And all are indeed nasty.
_________________
.
*
If a llama crosses the River Thames, can a monkey in Madagascar traverse the Indian ocean on the back of a whale, while tapdancing to a seagull playing the accordian?
*
.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
beerlover420
Permadrunk
Permadrunk


Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 845
Beer Reviews: 1401
Location: Central Maine, USA.
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt.12, Goose Island Bourbon County Stout

PostPosted: Sat - Feb, 18 2012 - 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's wrong with smokin' beers?
Cool
_________________
Beer Is Bread
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ricka182
Betty Ford Patient
Betty Ford Patient


Joined: 19 Aug 2004
Posts: 2702
Beer Reviews: 60
Location: Boston
Favorite Beer: Westvleteren Abt 12

PostPosted: Sat - Feb, 18 2012 - 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are better things to smoke. Cool Beer
_________________
.
*
If a llama crosses the River Thames, can a monkey in Madagascar traverse the Indian ocean on the back of a whale, while tapdancing to a seagull playing the accordian?
*
.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sickle8
Alcohol-fueled
Alcohol-fueled


Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Posts: 311
Beer Reviews: 431
Location: PA
Favorite Beer: Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout; anything I make

PostPosted: Mon - Mar, 12 2012 - 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally love smoked beers, but to each their own! Along with a friend, I recently brewed a Baltic porter, and am eager to bottle it this weekend and get to tasting -- it's a great style. The SA Baltic IPA is VERY good, a 4.5 out of 5 on my scale.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
sickle8
Alcohol-fueled
Alcohol-fueled


Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Posts: 311
Beer Reviews: 431
Location: PA
Favorite Beer: Southern Tier's Creme Brulee Stout; anything I make

PostPosted: Mon - Mar, 12 2012 - 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ricka182 wrote:
Marketing. People and "craft brewers" just make shit up nowadays. If it's different, other people will want to try it, just to try something "different". Not all black beers are the same though. Good example would be SA Black Lager, a notably dark, malty, heavy brew. On the flipside, Guiness Black Lager, much lighter in mouthfeel than expected, well defined flavors and aromas, but still black in color.

And to add to the confusion, Sam Adams is adding to their limited release of the small batch series, which I have yet to find anywhere. They will be soon releasing a new Lager, called Deep Depths Black IPA. Yes, they are calling it a black IPA, but also calling it a lager. I read that on two other sites, maybe it was copy/paste, but if it's true... = WTF Mr. Koch?!



A Baltic porter traditionally uses lager yeast, but at low ale temperatures (60-65 degrees). Ours that we have in the works is currently fermenting at 64-65 degrees Fahrenheit.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Beer Forums Forum Index -> The Beers All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB
About Us | | Privacy Policy | Disclaimer | Advertise | Contact Us